Author Topic: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!  (Read 1526 times)

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2010, 10:13:16 AM »
I am not questioning the art's effectiveness. I am at odds anytime I see a training video against multiple attackers, it seems to be always the people within the same art.

This kinda reminds me of pressure point seminars

Yes I agree to a certain extent but I also think that of all the Arts, Aikido is probably the one which needs to be practiced to understand what is going on. I think the purpose of the demo is to demonstrate the principles and basics and show as best they can how moves work, maybe not to show some double hard b*stard who can take on another load of double hard b*starts. Some of locks and unbalancing moves can sometime not look as effective as they actually are. My study of Aikido is limited but much of what was shown in the video I've done and had done to me.

The proof of the pudding is very much in the eating. You are free to comment by all means but you'd be better off practicing the Art to first get a idea of what the principles are, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way, after all we can't all be versed in every Art.
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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2010, 04:29:50 AM »
I've just had a look at the video again. I'm a bit suprised that you take the view that you do or that that was the only comment you could make. I do agree that without any understanding of Aikido principles that a person could misunderstand what's going on.

Are you questioning  how effective the Art is ?

I am not questioning the art's effectiveness. I am at odds anytime I see a training video against multiple attackers, it seems to be always the people within the same art.

This kinda reminds me of pressure point seminars

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2010, 02:45:15 AM »
I've just had a look at the video again. I'm a bit suprised that you take the view that you do or that that was the only comment you could make. I do agree that without any understanding of Aikido principles that a person could misunderstand what's going on.

Are you questioning  how effective the Art is ?

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2010, 04:12:58 PM »
Sorry! Excuse me for breathing


LOL. You may breathe, just dont sneeze my way with something I may have to catch.

(Sneeze=post=catch=attention)  :)

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2010, 12:42:54 PM »
Sorry! Excuse me for breathing

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 07:40:51 PM »
Well, the thread is about SS and this particular video.

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2010, 06:23:30 PM »
Yeah maybe, I haven't seen the vid for a while i'll have to check it out again. I was speaking about my experience and Aikido on general

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2010, 12:39:53 PM »
Rickster,

Yes I agree it can look that way sometimes but if as Uke you don't go with the throws some of those locks etc can really do damage, I say that as quite a muscular (I train weights heavy like a chevy 3-4 times a week) guy who's mostly trained in a hard style for over 20 years but has also been thrown about by Aikido people half my size. In fact I had to give up Aikido at one time because of damage to my wrists and I'm used to breaking house bricks etc. within my MAs training.

I understand to go "with the flow".

Hapkido, Judo, Jiu Jitsu, are the same.

However, some of those defenses in the video, and many such, the attackers attack too linear and "robotical". And warrant to "fall down" in some cases, "unnecessary"

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2010, 05:24:00 AM »
Rickster,

Yes I agree it can look that way sometimes but if as Uke you don't go with the throws some of those locks etc can really do damage, I say that as quite a muscular (I train weights heavy like a chevy 3-4 times a week) guy who's mostly trained in a hard style for over 20 years but has also been thrown about by Aikido people half my size. In fact I had to give up Aikido at one time because of damage to my wrists and I'm used to breaking house bricks etc. within my MAs training.
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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2010, 03:19:49 AM »
I am at odds watching Aikido demonstrations. It appears that the attackers are too "willing" As for Steven, he is a tall man, so it would seem natural that he can take on all of those shorter people in the video.

I do like the footwork in Aikido

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2009, 06:54:15 PM »
Nice video. I really like it, even the slow motion parts. Thanks.
"What the caterpillar sees as the end of the world, the master sees as a butterfly."- Richard Bach

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2009, 01:42:02 AM »
OMG!
Black and white...

Are they more intense than today?
I feel the intensity even its an old video hehehe!
thanks for the link.

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2009, 04:35:27 AM »
Thanks Bluecrab,

Cool site! Yes I'll have to look into the knee aspect of it, although I now do a nearly all kicking style, I think the sensible move for the future would be to calm it down a bit.

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2009, 11:39:26 AM »
Cheers, Gi.

From what I understand, there's not much hapkido in the UK. There seems to be a fair amount of Japanese or Japanese-derived jujutsu, though.

Given that nearly all hapkido schools emphasize an extensive kicking repertoire (but not ours, as I mentioned), you probably would not find it kind to your knees.

But there are other elements of the art that can be hard on the knees if you have any problems. For example, our way of doing throws and takedowns focuses on using the body (energy coming from what the Koreans call the danjeon, or tanden in Japanese). To do this efficiently, you have to bend at the knees a lot in many techniques when throwing or taking down an opponent. I experience knee discomfort in training fairly frequently. But, I'm also older than the average student, so I'm dealing with the normal wear and tear on the knees that anybody at my age (55) probably experiences.

Anyway, I'm glad you found the info about our hapkido useful. And good luck with your rehab and ongoing training.

btw, if you're interested, here's a link to our Korean website. The English section has extensive information about both hapkido and kuhapdo (our sword art, which is entirely separate from our hapkido curriculum).

http://jungkikwan.com/

I'm heading to Korea for a week and a half of training in less than two weeks... and as usual, that little %$#@ Kim Jong Il is acting up just as we're about to go. It never fails.  >:(
"The Korean founder, Mr. Choi Yong Sul, said, 'When you are forty, you can get to know the primary skills.' This expresses how difficult hapkido training is." (http://jungkikwan.com)

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Re: Cool Video of Steven Segal Kicking Real Life Butt!
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2009, 05:49:39 AM »
Bluecrab,

Thanks! I am in the UK and will have to see what's in the area when I'm ready. I'm really happy with the style I do now but following my recent surgery I am considering maybe doing an art that's not going to be as hard on my knee. Thanks again for the info.