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Offline Bluecrab

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Re: The Rope Dart/Flying Meteor Hammer
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 07:24:16 PM »

 The rope dart/meteor hammer has history in both camps wushu and traditional kungfu.

Hey Blade,

I think you're right here.

I remember seeing a woman do what looked like a form with the rope dart on a martial arts documentary about ten years ago (I think it was by National Geographic). It was pretty impressive. That thing reaches a very high speed as it's whipping through the air.
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Re: The Rope Dart/Flying Meteor Hammer
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 05:10:48 PM »
I saw it on a tournament. It was awesome to watch. But it seems to me more like a wushu thing. And it looks hard to master. But I believe if you put your mind to it and train often, you can master it Blade. Just be careful and not hit yourself with it.

 The rope dart/meteor hammer has history in both camps wushu and traditional kungfu. GM Willy Lin of the TienShan Pai system had articles and footage of him performing the Meteor hammer in NY and DC years before wushu as we know it today, to mean the competition brand of Chinese martial arts from Mainland China. Became a commonly known word in the US.

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Re: The Rope Dart/Flying Meteor Hammer
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 05:02:15 PM »
I saw it on a tournament. It was awesome to watch. But it seems to me more like a wushu thing. And it looks hard to master. But I believe if you put your mind to it and train often, you can master it Blade. Just be careful and not hit yourself with it.
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Re: The Rope Dart/Flying Meteor Hammer
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 12:17:05 PM »
With the Ninja Assassin Movie

My guess is it will get real popular for awhile. At least until people discover how hard it is.

Sincerely, NightOwl

 Though in that movie it was used more as a slashing weapon with a knife instaed of a blunt metal weight and the use of chain has decided advantages over rope against other bladed weapons, I can still see why the rope dart would only benefit from this film. It is definately a very hard weapon to learn and unforgiving when you strike yourself with it let alone any other unintended target. Hence why others have taken to the tennis ball or small sandbag option at the end of the rope. It also requires significant ceiling hieght as well as lateral space to practice and with the cold weather quickly moving in outdoor practice will be curtailed significantly.

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Re: The Rope Dart/Flying Meteor Hammer
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 11:35:58 AM »
With the Ninja Assassin Movie

My guess is it will get real popular for awhile. At least until people discover how hard it is.

Sincerely, NightOwl

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The Rope Dart/Flying Meteor Hammer
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 04:30:35 AM »
 Hello All,

 For those who arent sure what I'm referring to. It is a weapon of Chinese origin. A chunk of metal of significant wieght attached to a length of rope which is thrown at the enemy and quickly retracted by the user. Using complex wrapping and deceptive launching manuevers. Said to dart in and out like a Dragon's tongue. Some may rememeber the Jackie Chan Hit movie Shanghai Noon where Chan ties a Horse shoe to a long length of rope to effectively take out a few gunslingers. Even more recently in the film Kill Bill Vol1 where Thurman's charactor is in a death duel with Crazy 88 gang member "GoGo Ubari" who uses and extreme theatrical version of the weapon of a saw bladed maceball and length of chain instead of the standard rope. The weapon goes by many names depending on the configuration of the weighted metal end. The slim cylindrical pointed metal piece is called the ropedart, the larger rounder and heaver brother is known as the Flying meteor, There are even pieces shaped as metal hands with sharp talon like fingers. A modern funtional version produced by the Coldsteel company famous for their fighting knives even offers a "RopeKnife" which as it sounds, is a knife attached to a length of rope which can be swung and launched as a projectile. I've seen video footage and can attest that it really works with lethal result. A man launching the rope knife and hitting apples off of a tree in rapid succession.

 I just recently resumed my study into this difficult complex weapon which is rapidly gaining in popularity not only with the martial arts competiton crowd but with non martial arts related extreme/fringe sports groups in the rhealm of Frissbee etc.. My first exposure to the ropedart was in the early 80s while I was training with my weapons mentor in 3 sectioned staff, his particular weapon of choice was the ropedart. He was still in the researching phase. At the time I had no real interest in the weapon and wrote it off as too complex and time consuming to learn for my tastes. 27 years later I acquired my own and began the process of learning. Now there are many good learning resources for the weapon available on DVD  It kept my interest for a few months but  put it away in favor of more urgent matters. 2 years after that I have the urge again. One thing you have to get used to is the rope burns on the hands from the constant launching and retraction without letting it hit the ground. Keeping it in constant motion is also very tiring. A few ounces of metal can quickly feel like a pound! There is also the danger of hitting oneself with it. Some have taken to using a tennis ball or something soft instead of the metal projectile object instead. WHich so far I refuse to do. I'd love to become funtional/operational with it by the spring or mid summer intime to show off for festivals and demos.
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